• Jason Perlow:
  @jsnell @harrymccracken We went through a DTV transition not long ago. Unless 4K ends up in broadcast and cable, nobody is buying.

• Harry McCracken:
  @jperlow @jsnell It won’t matter until there’s lots and lots of content, but I’m patient.

• Jason Snell:
  @harrymccracken @jperlow Patience is the key. Over the long haul, will 4K be around? Almost certainly. But I wonder if it’s 10 years away.

• Harry McCracken:
  @jsnell @jperlow I didn’t buy an HDTV until nearly 20 years after I saw my first demo. I can wait for it to be good, cheap & available.

• Jason Snell:
  @harrymccracken @jperlow Back to my original point – this feels like something that’s 10 years out, not 5.

@jsnell @harrymccracken @jperlow 4K is the definite future—witness “window environments” in SF films. Affordability is the issue.

• Jason Snell:
  @jeffporten @harrymccracken @jperlow The future yes, the near-term consumer-electronics future, I think not. 10 years maybe.

@jsnell @harrymccracken @jperlow I don’t disagree, but I’ve been burned too often to set a number on the timeline.

• Jason Perlow:
  @jeffporten @jsnell @harrymccracken not the future for broadcast and until gigabit to the house is commoditized, pure fantasy for subscriber

• Jason Snell:
  @jeffporten @harrymccracken @jperlow I hate setting numbers too, but when I look at 4K I have a hard time seeing rapid consumer update.

• Jason Perlow:
  @jsnell @jeffporten @harrymccracken the infrastructure challenges alone are daunting let alone the component costs

• Jason Perlow:
  @jsnell @jeffporten @harrymccracken 45MB per UNCOMPRESSED FRAME http://magazine.creativecow.net/article/4k-di-on-the-girl-with-the-dragon-tattoo …

• Jason Perlow:
  @jsnell @jeffporten @harrymccracken “With 4K data, and files over 40 megabytes a frame — that’s 800 megabytes a second”

• Jason Perlow:
  @jsnell @jeffporten @harrymccracken even compressed with artifacts, you’ll still need like 200MB per second. PER SECOND.

• Rob Pegoraro:
  Sony brings out a prototype 56″ 4K OLED TV on stage – and it promptly BSoDs. If you’re playing the CES drinking game: chug!

@robpegoraro If that had happened at Apple, Jobs would have sent someone out behind the shed for summary execution.

• Rob Pegoraro:
  @jeffporten Remember when Jobs threw a digital camera off the stage? I wonder what happened to the guy responsible for that flub.

@robpegoraro Wasn’t an Apple device, so I assume Jobs just tanked their stock a few months later.

• Tom Negrino:
  I’m having one of those Defeated By Technology I Thought I Understood days.

@negrino You’d fit in perfectly at CES. The technologies are travel and eating.

• Scott Simpson:
  I call it “preemie” ejaculation because that makes it adorable.

• John Siracusa:
  @scottsimpson I’m not sure prematurely born infants are actually all that adorable. You should probably do a Google image search.

@siracusa @scottsimpson I was a preemie, and let me tell you, those baby pictures are ugly as sin.

• Chris Foresman:
  So, who’s going to Pepcom tonight? #2013CES

@foresmac Heading there shortly.

CES 2013: Cases, Chargers, Docks, and Houseplant Monitors? http://tidbits.com/article/13486 

• rik panganiban:
  Dammit “Alien” 33 years later is still freakin scary. #fb

@rikomatic The Xenomorph and the little girls from The Shining still freak me out.

• Michael Gartenberg:
  There are four terms required to be properly buzzword compliant at CES this year. Please name them.

• Chris Foresman:
  @Gartenberg Bluetooth, app, activity tracking, augmented reality

@foresmac @gartenberg So far it’s mobile, solution, social. Usually all in a row.

Resolved: I need a posse of tech geeks who enjoy dancing.

Wake up time has just shifted to 5 AM, and odds of all-nighter have increased to 98.5%.

• Brett Kelly:
  Took an unplanned 3-hour nap and am now wide awake having a beer.

@inkedmn About to head to Palazzo, buzz me if you’re there.

CrashPlan is paused and network-forbidden, and I’ve uploaded nearly a gig at 200K/sec. What the hell is doing that?

My editor @jeffcarlson just suggested the #OccupyCES hashtag. I already have the “We are the 99%” sticker on my laptop bag. Greatly amused.

Dear @crashplan: traveling for the next six weeks. Is there a “go away until I say so” so I don’t kill my monthly 4G data plan? Mac 10.8.

• Glenn Fleishman:
  @jeffporten You can force unload the engine without uninstall the app. you might also be able to turn off Java! That would prevent it

@GlennF I’m *very* busy thanks to all of the parties @TidBITS is sending me to. If you can email me the force unload command, thanks!

• Jeff Carlson:
  @jeffporten @GlennF @TidBITS @adamengst We’re scrappy. No need for a trailer office. You just need to take over the Verge one. #occupyces

@jeffcarlson @glennf @tidbits @adamengst That’s where I announce an Android tablet, wait for them to come out, then lock the door behind?

• Jeff Carlson:
  @jeffporten @glennf @tidbits @adamengst Exactly like taking the shield bunker in RotJ. With Solo shoulder shrug.

@jeffcarlson @glennf @tidbits @adamengst I’m about to head to Lavo. I’ll see if I can get an Ewok to use as my wingman.

I love my editors.

• Glenn Fleishman:
  @jeffporten You got it! Check email

I have enough work to do to easily justify an all-nighter, and a Monday schedule from 8 AM – 1 AM. Decisions, decisions.

• Glenn Fleishman:
  @jeffporten from running at all.

• Glenn Fleishman:
  @jeffporten You can also choose which Wi-Fi networks over which it would work, and disable the 4G tethering one.

@GlennF I tried killing the engine, but continued to see lots of data moving (might not have been Crashplan). Where’s the wifi setting?

@GlennF And can I disable when tethered over USB?

@GlennF Found the wifi settings, thanks!